WAV tags we support

[Aaron]

For those interested in taking advantage of the WAV chunks we use in bitbox and blackbox. Here is some documentation:

This link has the best documentation I have seen on the overall WAV structure:

https://sites.google.com/site/musicgapi/technical-documents/wav-file-format

Our products read and write these optional tags:

• smpl - loop points and root note
• inst - key and velocity range
• acid - beat count for clips
• cue - slice points stored as cue points
• JUNK - a small unused section to align the audio data with the block size on micro SD cards

Here is information on the acid chunk:

https://forums.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=227118

Enjoy

[puffycaps]

This is fantastic info, thanks! You guys kick ass.

[camman]

whats the best way of changing the tag outside of bitbox? doing it inside takes a real long time.

[Aaron]

I use Sound Forge on Windows. It's overkill for editing WAV tags. I'm not sure of a good option.

[camman]

whats the best way of changing the tag outside of bitbox? doing it inside takes a real long time.

could a software update change how the samples are loaded? it would be much easier if it used the midi note numbers rather than a wav tag. it would make multi-sample loading super easy.

[Simontl]

Which program for Mac OSX would be able to create ACID tags on WAV? Logic Pro X? Ocenaudio?

[shankiphonic]

I can only add that I googled it to death, and downloaded half a dozen apps and came up with nothing useful.
Everything was music library editor.
Now - if Cunningham's law would apply - someone would follow up with a post telling me how wrong I am and finally give us the answer....

[Steve]

ANSWER: SampleRobot. $91 USD.

It is important to know that we do not look at filenames to create multisample sets. We look only at the wavtag. Logic works well but does not write these tags (in my experience) as it renames files.

Sample Robot will take the sets you have created or purchased and write the necessary data for use in our machines. There are free options....but your time is also worth something. For me, I paid for SR and have never looked back.

[jacoment]

Hi Steve,

- I'm importing folders of multisampled instruments into SampleRobot
- When copying the edited files from the SampleRobot file directory to Blackbox and then loading one of the files
- I go to Info to check root note assignment and I'm getting 'None'

Should I expect the wavtags to be added by SR?

Thanks!

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Edit: Found it! User must export project, only then will wavtags be added to files.

[zznmeb]

It's a tad more expensive now (249 Euros!) I still might spring for it if I can't find an open source alternative.

[Steve]

Try "Endless WAV"

[yamakazi666]

moved to the above comment section

[puffycaps]

This link has the best documentation I have seen on the overall WAV structure:

https://sites.google.com/site/musicgapi/technical-documents/wav-file-format

This document seems to have disappeared. Can you please repost?

[jonlemon]

Here's the latest webarchive snapshot from January 2023: https://web.archive.org/web/20230108...av-file-format

[chkk1963]

Does Sample Robot support bulk import / tagging of a large number of folders? I have the "Samples from Mars" full library and based on the demos I have seen, it looks as if the import needs to be done manually per multi sample ...

[yamakazi666]

You can, it is not fully automated, but not that long to config, but it will not work on the blackbox sadly… You will have some work to do to make it work, and this part is not automated. There are some python scripts on the forum that you can use, but they are for some specific use, so you will have to change some parts of the code.

There is no easy way for now as Blackbox support some old tags that are not really used any more.