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  • What about the hidden compressor/limiter ?

    When i add a loud sound in front of a drum sequence, a limiter/compressor seems to kick in, any info about that ? would it be possible to change settings ?

  • #2
    The compressor is on the main, stereo output. If you choose anything else (FX1, FX1/2, OUT1, etc.) you will avoid the compressor. I'm sorry to say that as of version 2.1.1, the compressor settings are not available.

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    • #3
      This should be clearly stated in the manual, as sometimes one is wondering why output levels change and find no clue... that there is a compressor on stereo output explains a lot

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      • #4
        There is a compressor built into this?

        I would rather there was not or at least an option to turn it off. Adds delay to the sync and compressors are very much a matter of taste. At what point does the compressor kick in? Threshold?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Sam Spacey View Post
          There is a compressor built into this?

          I would rather there was not or at least an option to turn it off. Adds delay to the sync and compressors are very much a matter of taste. At what point does the compressor kick in? Threshold?
          agreed!

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          • #6
            I for one am actually quite happy that there is a compressor on the main output, as it helps to stop damaging speakers or blowing out a P.A in a live performance setting. It's actually more of a limiter as it's quite transparent - unless you're really driving something... For many years I have used a gain staging (optimal level) of -10dB in production, and this seems to work very well within bitbox, to keep everything sitting nicely in the mix without any squashing. Give it a try!

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            • #7
              Thanks for the discussion. Yes, the compressor is more of a limiter meant to keep things from clipping under abnormal or extreme circumstances. Lots of software already has one built in, like Traktor and Maschine, for the same reasons.

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              • #8
                I recently bought a bitbox... I have to say: I absolutely love the module, but I also have the issue with the limiter, i'm not saying that i don't like it but, sometimes the master outs feel a little weak compared to the other outputs. Also, at times I would like to have a completely dry signal on the outs, so i can use external compressors. for my workflow there is a workaround though: fx1-fx2 as stereo main out, out1 and out2 as mono outs.
                for some patches i like it a lot though, so It would have been great if it was possible to switch it on/off on every output configuration.

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                • #9
                  I would really like the ability to turn this feature off. I assumed that it was a sort of CPU limitation of the device, and have been working around how bad it sounds when I really get going.
                  A few simple tests using the FX outs and I am delighted.

                  I vote we gain the ability to turn the compression OFF
                  I would be a lot happier with the results if we could do that please.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Dan View Post
                    I for one am actually quite happy that there is a compressor on the main output, as it helps to stop damaging speakers or blowing out a P.A in a live performance setting. It's actually more of a limiter as it's quite transparent - unless you're really driving something... For many years I have used a gain staging (optimal level) of -10dB in production, and this seems to work very well within bitbox, to keep everything sitting nicely in the mix without any squashing. Give it a try!
                    Sure, but ones mans taste is not another mans...and with limiters/compressors being a very personal thing (I still prefer external UBK Fatso, Distressor and some old fav plugins) I would still like the option to not have a built in limiter. Gain staging for me is always VU0 (-18db digital) with peaks hitting-12db digital so unless you are really new to this there should be no need for a limiter.

                    I'm guessing if you have shelled out the cash for a Bitbox you must have some idea about audio... distortion from running too hot is easy to spot.... but a built in hidden limiter is harder to spot but you know something just doesn't feel right when say playing back the same samples through an S-950

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