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  • Steve Just curious: did you manage to reproduce the strange filter behaviour? Any idea if it can be fixed in a a future firmware upgrade?

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    • Originally posted by HprFcs View Post
      Steve Just curious: did you manage to reproduce the strange filter behaviour? Any idea if it can be fixed in a a future firmware upgrade?
      Not yet. I am still looking at this and other issues.

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      • Originally posted by Steve View Post

        Not yet. I am still looking at this and other issues.
        No worries, was just wondering if you were finally able to see what we see. I’ll go be patient again.

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        • Hello,

          1. My Blackbox (1.6.5) won't respond to MIDI-IN on the TRS input - have tried several controllers and synths with multiple 5-pin adapters, including KeyStep. Update: I managed to get signal to the TRS-MIDI if I turn hardware on, change channels, and make wired connection in a certain order.

          2. My Blackbox responds to MIDI via USB from KeyStep for anywhere from 10 to 60 seconds, then stops and won't work again. Plug/unplug/restarts have no effect. If I go away for a couple hours and come back and fire everything up again, it will work for another 10-60 seconds, then stop again. Tried several cables. Same behavior happens with Korg microKey.

          3. Also, is there a bug tracker? I couldn't tell if this is already reported. Don't want to add noise.


          Regards
          Last edited by leMel42; 07-24-2020, 01:42 PM.

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          • Originally posted by leMel42 View Post
            Hello,

            1. My Blackbox (1.6.5) won't respond to MIDI-IN on the TRS input - have tried several controllers and synths with multiple 5-pin adapters, including KeyStep. Update: I managed to get signal to the TRS-MIDI if I turn hardware on, change channels, and make wired connection in a certain order.
            I'm assuming you tried the 1010 MIDI TRS adapters? Can you tell me more about the setup here? Other gear, etc?

            2. My Blackbox responds to MIDI via USB from KeyStep for anywhere from 10 to 60 seconds, then stops and won't work again. Plug/unplug/restarts have no effect. If I go away for a couple of hours and come back and fire everything up again, it will work for another 10-60 seconds, then stop again. Tried several cables. Same behavior happens with Korg microKey.
            How are you powering the KeyStep?

            3. Also, is there a bug tracker? I couldn't tell if this is already reported. Don't want to add noise.
            This thread or the "support" thread for a product.

            I have a few ideas for you but am looking for more info first.




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            • Thanks for the reply!

              Originally posted by Steve View Post
              I'm assuming you tried the 1010 MIDI TRS adapters? Can you tell me more about the setup here? Other gear, etc?
              Since I haven't been able to replicate #1, I'm going to assume I made a connection mistake somewhere. Also, I may have lost track of my settings on global MIDI input vs. individual pad MIDI input. At any rate, I'm not having any problems with this any more.



              Originally posted by Steve View Post
              How are you powering the KeyStep?
              Korg microKeys can only be powered via USB. They have only a single USB-B and a footswitch input.

              When I saw the microKey was intermittently dropping off, I switched to the KeyStep. The KeyStep is being powered through Blackbox's USB host.

              The Blackbox is powered from an AC-connected powered charging hub. There is no other gear in the configuration.



              Originally posted by Steve View Post
              This thread or the "support" thread for a product.

              I have a few ideas for you but am looking for more info first.
              Ok, thanks! No rush, I'm just an amateur, experimenting for now.

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              • Hello some feedback on 1.6.5 firmware :

                Once again all the bug we report since more than 6 month are stil here on basic stuff and its start to be really anoying...

                Since 1.5 firmware :

                - ADSR still not working !!! Decay is not reacting all time and we have to reset the attack to 0 for having the decay back again on a multisample or simple sample.

                - Filter is still not working on multisample , its like he works for couple of notes and jump sometimes off letting random notes pass thrue...

                Really we dont ask nothing new cause everything is always refused but can we have basic stuff like ADSR and Filter working ??? So we we can at least do a live set without glitch ...

                Thanks.

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                • Originally posted by Blond12 View Post
                  Hello some feedback on 1.6.5 firmware :

                  - ADSR still not working !!! Decay is not reacting all time and we have to reset the attack to 0 for having the decay back again on a multisample or simple sample.

                  - Filter is still not working on multisample , its like he works for couple of notes and jump sometimes off letting random notes pass thrue...

                  Thanks.
                  Hi Blond12, does either issue happen consistently on the same multisample (or even same preset)? Can you share a preset or some specific steps to repro? I need to understand more about your setup and other operations going on the blackbox, etc. are you using an external controller?

                  I'm sorry you have had this bad experience. However, I will do what I can to help you solve the issues you mention. I will need as much info as you can give me - or specific steps to reproduce. I still need to see it on my end in order to fix it.

                  thanks for the report

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                  • The filter problem sounds like what I reported about earlier. Again, IMHO it’s a memory leak thing.

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                    • Steve
                      Steve commented
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                      it may be. These types of issues are sometimes difficult to fix if we cannot see them for ourselves.

                  • Steve i'll make a vidéo this weekend showing you.

                    Thanks

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                    • Hi,

                      Very often I have problems with non-synchronization while working with BB. And I think I found a scenario where the problem is repeatable.

                      1. Create a drum sequence with quick drum sounds
                      Step linen: 1/16
                      Step count: 16

                      2. Resample it to an 2 bar loop

                      3. Set on the pad with the loop (clip):
                      QUant Size: 1 bar
                      Sync: None (because the file should be exactly 2 bars long at a given tempo, you don't need to sync it)
                      LaunchMode: Toggle

                      3. Turn on the metronome to play while Play

                      4. Select Pad to play

                      5. Press Play

                      The percussion clip will gradually become out of sync with the metronome.


                      This causes many problems in different processes. I don't want to use clip speed shifting because I'm recording it specifically in the sequencer to make it fit with everything. Later I want to use it in a DAW ...

                      Please fix it.
                      Thanks
                      Last edited by marpiol; 10-18-2020, 10:03 AM.

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                      • Steve
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                        And what is the outcome when you enable sync?

                    • Steve
                      When I turn on sync (1/16) time stretching works and the clip starts to synchronize.
                      But BB doesn't play exactly the same file I recorded (the stretched version is being played). Then I record a long clip with a previously recorded loop in the background and transfer it to my DAW. Every time I get out of sync because each repetition of the first clip loop starts at a slightly different point in time than when I recorded it. In DAW I have to cut it or use time stretching as well.

                      Time stretching is a function that messig up with a clip internal timeline, and as the manual says, should be used when the file was recorded at a different tempo. But in this case i use the same tempo and also the same recording device.

                      When I start to record more clips of various lengths (2, 4, 8 bars) this problem gets bigger. When combining clips that are run in sequence and clips that are triggered by a pad, it gets even worse because the sequencer always runs well, i.e. according to the metronome.

                      The reason is that the clip recorded at 2 bar is slightly longer than the 2 bar measured by the metronome (I have set up a separate thread for this https://forum.1010music.com/forum/pr...ger-than-2-bar).

                      I hope I have explained everything well. It's a bit hard for me to put it into English. If something is unclear, ask.
                      Last edited by marpiol; 10-19-2020, 02:54 PM.

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                      • generally, I would expect a clip recorded with BB to be exactly as long as indicated by the metronome and I would not need time stretching

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                        • It's not as much about time-stretching as it is about the constant checking that the file is in sync. You have to use sync. Are you recording to a specific length (1 bar = 16 1/16th notes) or is your rec length set to Custom?

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                          • Steve
                            Yes, I am using mostly specyfic length but sometimes the samples are 128 bar long. Could You explain me why I have to use sync and why sample recorded on BB with tempo 85bpm, 2 bar is longer than that?
                            I give You one more example. When I recorded clip and playing it without sync is not synchrobized but when i put that clip on sequence it is. Sequencer cutting off clip but only when I setup it to gate or ttrigger + mono. So its more about why the recorder file is longer than I set on recording screen .

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