Internal Modulation

[FreedomSeven]

What tips/hacks are you guys using to modulate your samples via black box ?

Is there a way to modulate the samples in blackbox from an external midi controller via lfo, envelopes, so basically automated modulations

[jayneural]

I use quantized recording to resample the BB on a predefined number of bars duration and I move the parameters I need to modulate during the recording.

1. Select Resample as source
2. Set the number of bars you want to record
3. Start recording
4. Make your parameter moves while recording

You then get the modulated sound inside the target pad.

Of course you then cannot modify the modulation without rerecording it but at least it doesn't require any external hardware.

You can also use an external controller so that you can have quicker access to parameters while resampling with modulation.

[FreedomSeven]

Thanks for this jayneural

I was looking for something to automate the modulations
But I will still use your suggestion to add more movement for now
Good call on using an external controller

[pieter3d]

I'm building a CV to MIDI converter using an Arduino. It requires some basic electronics and programming skills, but nothing too hard. The only somewhat tricky thing is scaling the voltages to make sure it doesn't clip or blow up the Arduino. Costs about 10 euros in parts. This allows me to use CV to modulate anything that accepts CC messages (or other MIDI stuff). Befaco's CV Thing and VCMC do the same thing if you're not into DIY.

[FreedomSeven]

Thanks for this 2nd reply pieter3d

Ive only just come to the whole cv world quite recently
So didn't really know what's possible with it
I understand that its a voltage being used as a control

So is it kinda like midi information that you just send to a destination ?
So I could use a cv signal to modulate the filter on blackbox ?
How would you use it with Blackbox ?

The only thing I don't understand is midi can be used on 16 channels and have various ccs pertaining to specific destinations
How does that work as a cv ?
Would each cv not just be one path ?

[pieter3d]

CV is short for control voltage. It's what modular synths use for example. Since I already have gear that can send CV, this is a simple way for me to get some modulation. MIDI is digital (and the BB doesn't have CV inputs) so you have to convert analog voltages to MIDI messages, that's what the Arduino does. And yeah, each CV signal becomes a CC message. Once you have that working, you can use the MIDI learn function to assign the CC's to the parameters you want to modulate in the BB.

My Arduino nano has 8 analog inputs (analog to digital converters; ADC's), so if I use all of them I can send 8 CC messages at the same time.

[FreedomSeven]

Thanks again pieter3d

Helps me understand better

[shankiphonic]

Is there a way to modulate the samples in blackbox from an external midi controller via lfo, envelopes, so basically automated modulations

yes.

[FreedomSeven]

Wow, this is perfect thanks

Wonder if this can be done with an Electric 2 ?

Don't have the budget for digitakt now

[shankiphonic]

No idea what electribes can do.
If they can sequence other gear, it should work

[Clifford Sage]

Yeah FreedomSeven I tried it with my ES2 and it did send CC but not modulated from ES2's sequencer :P sadly unless you got it working?.
I did get automated modulation coming from my MicroFreak, but lol i want my freak to be an audio instrument now just modulator thats why the Elctribe would be better as it's got the 16 instruments to choose from.
I've got a bit OSD with this issue atm. think I maY get a Bastle midi looper to loop cc to the BlackBox , BUT £40 QUID SHORT than OF a Keystep pro lol get's all a bit OTT size-wise ect ect !!