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  • BlkBx Beater
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    no it don't , the BB is a BEAST for that

  • bkoulouris
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    Dears, BB and MPC One are two different machines that they have one thing in common: "Make Music" Each one has its strong and weak points but honestly, just play with both and decide which suits your style and workflow. I tried both and I end up getting the BB because not only it gives me all the things I wanted but it does all these amazing things in a size that is unbeatable.
    Keep up the good work 1010music! We love your products ...and we love AKAI too

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  • Jack Pimiento
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    Originally posted by circuitghost View Post
    Mikeisnottoast I occassionally feel the same, but then I remember why I sold the Live - it's overloaded for me, I didn't know where to go because it did so much, and not all of it well - that I got lost. The Blackbox keeps me on track. I've grown very fond of how easy the sequencer brings out polyrythms, variations in time signature and stuff, so even though it doesn't do much, I'd find that if I'd look into anything else, it would have to do every single thing the Blackbox sequencer does, and then start building from there.
    My head was definitely turned by the MPC One but I've found myself really enjoying the BB. Although the unit was fine upon buying it, it's been quite exciting wondering what will be added next as Aaron seems to be interested in what we the users have to say and seems keen to build on what is already there. So far 1010 have implemented some really cool stuff.

    Obviously everybody has different wants and needs from the machine so not everyone will be happy with the current features or the direction the updates are taking.


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  • TheSchizoid
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    Originally posted by totalvoyage View Post
    I understand that badroom jamming or the modular "blink blink world" don't care about performative tools and that they are fine to spend 8 hours with a banal drone modulated with "20" LFO but there is also the standard Dance music (techno and house) and there are some pretty basic features like the NOTE REPEAT that is a shame to be missing really , is more fast to put drum rolling or HH note repeat on the computer than on BB !!

    BB has huge possibility for success among professional performers who really make a living with their music and 1010music instead of lossing time with youtube reviewers that really counts nothing when it comes to influence the market ( i say it respectfully but is the sad truth ) , Aaron should think more of someone like Chris Liebing , Dubfire etc that need and use similar boxes to trigger samples on every show , those will help influence big numbers (techno and house dj/live performance spend big money in gears ) and also those seasoned proper artists would give a serious feedback how to make an amazing concept like BB a serious performative tool.

    So to be repetitive dear AARON before the lovely granular synthesis is necessary the basics :

    -Note Repeat
    -Automatic Pitch detection of the samples and correct distribution through the keybad
    -Chord mode ( the new scale mode is a great first step tho)
    give us this and i ll send you some good Italian wine

    cheers
    I think what he wrotes in regards of techno dj and live acts, as well other djs from other music genre.

    due to the fact BB is so tiny, one can place it next to the DJ mixes and you can do crazy thinks. Have a look to Richie Hawtin what he uses as a set up.

    this basic thinks may enable door to other markets like DJ and Live-Act, weight and size matters when it comes to flight tickets, etc.

    keep you eys open, and sometimes you create something which was originally intended for some groups but could help other musicians a lot, too.

    just my 2 cent.

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  • circuitghost
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    Mikeisnottoast I occassionally feel the same, but then I remember why I sold the Live - it's overloaded for me, I didn't know where to go because it did so much, and not all of it well - that I got lost. The Blackbox keeps me on track. I've grown very fond of how easy the sequencer brings out polyrythms, variations in time signature and stuff, so even though it doesn't do much, I'd find that if I'd look into anything else, it would have to do every single thing the Blackbox sequencer does, and then start building from there.

    The Novation Launchpad MK3 comes close, and might be a very solid companion to sequence the Blackbox.

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  • Mikeisnottoast
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    Feeling this hard. I needed a sampler and sequencer and went with BB over MPC because the size was very appealing. But the sequencer in BB has proved excruciatingly bare bones, and the way it handles midi and program changes means I'm finding myself still in the market for a sequencer to make the BB play nice with my other gear. If I'm gonna have to get a big deck to sequence with anyway, might as well get the MPC that can also do all the things I need from the BB, and put BB on the shelf. I'll probably keep it around since I do like its workflow as a sampler, but it just cant seem to find a role it's not kind of obtuse at in my main rig.

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  • 76Rich
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    Originally posted by Suspect Frequencies View Post

    That was a mistake. The BlackBox is one of the worst pieces to choose if your goal is to get rid of ALL other drum machines.
    Agreed. Its a nice compliment to a drum machine, and a bigger set up. Ir equally as part of a smaller rig, but its not in a position to remove a drum machine from the mix.

    Maybe if there was an implementation of 'drum' tracks and 'sample' tracks, similar to the (basic) way thr circuit does it, then the argument for rrmoval would be valid. However as theres still much needing to be added at a basic level, we are a way off from this just now.

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  • jonesybb
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    Originally posted by Suspect Frequencies View Post

    That was a mistake. The BlackBox is one of the worst pieces to choose if your goal is to get rid of ALL other drum machines.
    Yeah nuts decision. Drums are terrible on BB atm with no note repeat, velocity, rigid quantize options etc

    However a great device to use WITH a drum machine.....Great at adding timestretched percussion, chords etc

    Last edited by jonesybb; 02-04-2020, 02:11 AM.

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  • Airyck
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    Originally posted by totalvoyage View Post
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    Dear Aaron we are not asking for LFOs...
    Wait what!? A bunch of us are actually asking for LFO’s

    Are you some kind of blackbox union account that speaks for all blackbox owners? Why wasn’t I included :,(

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  • Borgbilly
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    A couple years back I got fed up with using computers in my live performance. I found that having unlimited options was merely unlimited rabbit holes to fall into in the pursuit of creative flow. I started putting more focus on my modular rig, but still wanted the ability to incorporate samples, loops and basic sequencing of those components without throwing thousands more at the modular rig. While the Akai looks very impressive and has a very deep feature set, it somehow seems more like the laptop I so desperately want to get away from. While the Black Box may not be bristling with dedicated function keys and internal soft synths, it is very good, fast and reliable at what it does. But most of all, it sits very comfortably in the modular synth environment. I find my creativity and output are much greater when I have some boundaries. I tend to wander away from my initial creative idea searching through sounds on soft synths and goofing around with effects and I rarely find my way back.

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  • Suspect Frequencies
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    Originally posted by totalvoyage View Post

    I bought black box to get rid of all other dum machines
    That was a mistake. The BlackBox is one of the worst pieces to choose if your goal is to get rid of ALL other drum machines.

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  • circuitghost
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    My struggle with the Live, when I mentioned it was all over the place, is that it can do everything. I personally don't believe this is beneficial for hardware instruments. Again, this is my personal belief, not an objective truth. For me, the best gear has always been the focused ones. Doing one thing specifically, and doing it well. The Blackbox, to me, excels at being confident in what it is and delivering on that with crystal clear clarity.

    The new MPCs are fantastic as an accomplishment and as instruments, but it's not just an interesting prospect for me to do everything in one environment. The Blackbox is my tool for coming up with an idea for a song, by means of recording ideas into it and building ambience and beats around this with samples. As I progress to enhance the result, I bring it with me as a constant to the next stage. External fx for flavour and additional sonic depth and quality, then monitoring for mixing and first master template, where I then apply the Heat before I record.

    This is not a workflow for everyone, but it's where I'm coming from when I say the MPCs are all over the place. I'm a bit agnostic, though, and even hide the gear I'm not using at the time, to avoid distraction. If I come up with a new song, it's just my synth and the Blackbox on the table, for example. And when I'm done with that, I put it away and bring out the fx. Once done, they go and the Heat comes out. And so on. Partly because of living conditions, but I'm finding this is actually quite productive. Each phase has its own clarity on what it's supposed to bring to the song, and I can let go of certain things as I progress to the next phase.

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  • Adhrast
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    Originally posted by totalvoyage View Post

    I have a lot of gears too , dude a user should not do 4 operations to achieve such a simple feature or buy another device , I bought black box to get rid of all other dum machines ,if i should take a drum Maschine around with me to help black box sequencing than what I s the purpose of buying a small device , simple not logical solution. if this is a groove box sample playback studio the sequencer must be advanced or at least with basic features.
    Well, you wouldn't need to take a drum machine with you all the time, just sample one and save the samples on the BB so you have them anytime you need them.

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  • robertdryer
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    You just saved me spending money on another device I don’t need ha. I was going to buy one but that’s a deal breaker. Think I’ll get the MPX X instead. I think the Blackbox of more like a place to have true portable song making and sequencing. I don’t think of it as a production device though. When I want to doll up songs and produce it into something at another level I don’t see how one avoids a computer and a VST heavy DAW. But the One and MPX are on the right path for that. Completely different beast than the Black box which is for the musician who likes to tinker with samples. The producer end of things will have to end up on A DAW I think. Thanks for the info though. Saved me money but probably end up spending more in the long run lol

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    Originally posted by OldBones View Post
    Note repeat is a great feature for programming drums - but I’d surmise that most BB users would have other bits of gear for doing that... I definitely do.

    Get a cheap drum machine. Create a shitload of loops on it - sample those loops into BB & chop them up. You should be able to do some fairly wild & fantastic stuff.
    I have a lot of gears too , dude a user should not do 4 operations to achieve such a simple feature or buy another device , I bought black box to get rid of all other dum machines ,if i should take a drum Maschine around with me to help black box sequencing than what I s the purpose of buying a small device , simple not logical solution. if this is a groove box sample playback studio the sequencer must be advanced or at least with basic features.

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