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    Over the weekend I was trying to use bb as a looper for acoustic instruments: accordion, tuba, percussion. (via mic and preamp) Well it worked some way but the workflow was not smooth. I made a template with 16 empty pads: clip mode, some 1 bar, some 2 bars, some 4
    bars long and started the recording by threshold. Very often I had to delete the recorded file because something went wrong. Sometimes bb decides to switch from clip mode to sample mode so the recording does not start. Sometimes the threshold was too high or too low for the different instruments. In the end it was some kind of o.k. but it could be much smoother. For example with a midi foot pedal which starts and stops the recording, deletes the last recording (undo) and switch to the next empty pad. I think there is no need for overdub with 16 tracks available. A midi controller which could be programmed like this would be great. It would turn the bb into the most powerful live looper ever. :-) No need for an rc boss looper, pictronix or tc electronic (which I have been used so far)
    The new firmware update 1.4. is great by the way!!! I like the new "piano page" and the ability to set the volume of the metronome.

  • #2
    It has occurred to me that two or more different firmwares could be a good & thoughtful finale someday for bb. Because the realtime & step recording music creation process differs....different firmware could be more feature specific. Dedicated realtime/loop recording & sequencing vs. Step/grid type.
    More thoughts on this please..

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    • martin
      martin commented
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      in my opinion there is no real need for 2 firmwares.
      I would be very happy with a simple single button looper for rec, play, stop, erase (click, double click, hold) or a 3 button looper for rec/play, stop, erase...

    • underwood
      underwood commented
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      Yes, the only thing that is needed, that the play, record, stop buttons and a undo-redo can be free mapped to midi commands.

    • BestenFalls
      BestenFalls commented
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      like a second screen on recording or pad for looping? i guess it works fine right now but you have do some settings before you start recording...

      and id like a firmware just for grain synthesis

  • #3
    Hello
    +1
    ​​​​​​https://forum.1010music.com/forum/pr...tpedal-control

    https://forum.1010music.com/forum/pr...amour-whislist

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    • #4
      +1
      This wish is needed to avoid pad settings reset

      https://forum.1010music.com/forum/pr...g-a-new-sample

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      • #5
        +1
        I totally agree with Martin

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        • #6
          Well i fully agree in regards to sampler looping aspects...i guess i was refering to sequencing.
          Not that i have firsthand experience..but think about what jjos brought to the mpc for example.

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          • #7
            Originally posted by Smedley B View Post
            Well i fully agree in regards to sampler looping aspects...i guess i was refering to sequencing.
            Not that i have firsthand experience..but think about what jjos brought to the mpc for example.
            Isn't JJOS a complete alternative to the factory firmware? As far as I understand it's an upgrade on all fronts with no compromises. It's also made by a dude with no affiliation to Akai AFAIK.

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            • #8
              + 1 would be even greater ... but seems complicated

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              • #9
                +1 for more live looping support. Need “Record -> Overdub -> Play” support.

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by Naenyn View Post
                  +1 for more live looping support. Need “Record -> Overdub -> Play” support.
                  +1 I agree with this

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                  • #11
                    -1 Not really.

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Naenyn View Post
                      +1 for more live looping support. Need “Record -> Overdub -> Play” support.
                      +1 absolutely agree with that too - would put my BB on another level...

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                      • #13
                        Midi assignable looper mode. Screen would allow you to choose pad (midi assignable), choose input, adjust gain, set quantize, or auto number of bars. (Midi assignable). What to do at end of recording ..(play, stop, overdub). I'd also like feedback for overdub, cause I'm a frippertronics kind of guy But, in combination with a usb midi footswitch, you could open up the market to alot of guitar players.

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                        • #14
                          +1 for more live looping support

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                          • #15
                            Originally posted by martin View Post
                            Over the weekend I was trying to use bb as a looper for acoustic instruments: accordion, tuba, percussion. (via mic and preamp) Well it worked some way but the workflow was not smooth. I made a template with 16 empty pads: clip mode, some 1 bar, some 2 bars, some 4
                            bars long and started the recording by threshold. Very often I had to delete the recorded file because something went wrong. Sometimes bb decides to switch from clip mode to sample mode so the recording does not start. Sometimes the threshold was too high or too low for the different instruments. In the end it was some kind of o.k. but it could be much smoother. For example with a midi foot pedal which starts and stops the recording, deletes the last recording (undo) and switch to the next empty pad. I think there is no need for overdub with 16 tracks available. A midi controller which could be programmed like this would be great. It would turn the bb into the most powerful live looper ever. :-) No need for an rc boss looper, pictronix or tc electronic (which I have been used so far)
                            The new firmware update 1.4. is great by the way!!! I like the new "piano page" and the ability to set the volume of the metronome.
                            i MAY have an answer to this really bothering issue (in bold) : i think it is the number of measure : odd is sample, pair is clip... so when using custom, it can be either clip (2/4/6...) or sample (3/5/7...). if you choose other than custom, it will be pair, ie : clip...

                            of course if there is NO rec quantize, it will be sample, for there is no way you could exactly record pair measures ("exactly" used as a computer matter)

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