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  • What is your guess for the next Blackbox firmware ?

    Not sure if next 1.x firmware release is around the corner, but let’s try to guess what’s coming into this release.

    Here are the feature requests I’ve see the most in the forums, but I might have missed some :

    1. More fx / fx slots & resonant filter
    2. Improved mixer with EQ
    3. More than 16 pads
    4. Looper/Loop recorder workflow with pedal support
    5. Automation and/or LFO modulation
    6. Wave table synth engine
    7. Stem/MIDI song export
    8. USB device port File/Audio/MIDI I/O
    9. Improved UI/Usability (note editor, sample editor, shortcuts etc...)
    10. Song mode revamp
    0. No features : just a major stability focused release.

    Let’s be reasonable and choose only one guess and hence expectation (I intentionally grouped some the suggestions in the same type of functionality). You can also suggest one not mentioned here.
    Last edited by jayneural; 09-12-2020, 08:47 PM.

  • #2
    Just a great functional sequencer for me! and maybe an LFO or 2!

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    • jayneural
      jayneural commented
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      Can you please elaborate on the « functional sequencer » ? You mean better usability note editing screen ? Which would fit in digestion 9.

    • lozzie
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      The ability to at least edit velocity in the sequencer.

  • #3
    Maybe an easier question is: what can bitbox and toolbox do right now that blackbox can’t?

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    • jayneural
      jayneural commented
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      Is indeed often a good guess on what’s next about Blackbox

  • #4
    Originally posted by jayneural View Post

    3. More than 16 pads
    What would this look like?
    I'm in favor of more slots, to be sure - but if the pads get any smaller, I'm going to be in trouble trying to operate them from the touch screen with my sausage fingers!

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    • jayneural
      jayneural commented
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      Probably this should be organized as layers.

  • #5
    Number 7 would be a game changer for me

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    • jayneural
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      for me too ! and no concerns about CPU on this one.

  • #6
    JAYNEURAL, I guess I’m thinking along the lines of a DAW or MPC workflow, so yes better note editing, longer sequences, velocity editing, no quantise but also ‘humanise’ quantise, a swing that works!

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    • #7
      A improved sequencer with scales or at least velocity editing would be great. But maybe some of the features from the bitbox such as multisampling for different velocities support, some kind of wavetable mode, using the audio input as cv modulation source or even internal routing of the pads as modulation sources would be awesome (not sure if possible)

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      • jayneural
        jayneural commented
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        Isn’t the multi-sample already multi-velocity on the BB ?

      • jpablo91
        jpablo91 commented
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        Is it?, I thought that you can multisample different velocities, but not load it on the pads. I might have missed that feature update then.

    • #8
      Originally posted by Georges View Post
      Maybe an easier question is: what can bitbox and toolbox do right now that blackbox can’t?
      Get dumped for a newer module with a faster CPU ?

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      • Georges
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        Maybe the performance delta is overrated - the blackbox is only 1.5 years old. Furthermore, releasing new hardware comes with its own risks.

      • jayneural
        jayneural commented
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        Quite early for a new model, but probably one day a Pro/Live version with pads on the right and more Audio I/O, full sized MIDI and more CPU headroom would definitely be cool !

    • #9
      Still hoping for LFOs/automation.
      Or recording and playback of CCs. (Motion sequencing or parameter locks)

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      • #10
        Add sample filename text scrolling to see entire sample details like BPM and KEY which are usually at the end of purchased melodic loops. Reasonable and simple request.

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        • jayneural
          jayneural commented
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          so choice 9

      • #11

        2. An EQ in the mixer would be a good thing

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        • jayneural
          jayneural commented
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          yes, and resonant filter

      • #12
        4...7 & 8 would be nice.

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        • #13
          Fx - Whoever agrees and votes

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          • jayneural
            jayneural commented
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            +1 for sure Another couple of fx slots would be cool too but not sure the hardware can take this.
            Otherwise if they can't, they can just as FX choices on the bottom and put the filter and resonance on the top of screen and top rotaries.

        • #14
          all theses things would be great, but most of them would kill the cpu, which is the weakest part IMHO

          9. Improved UI/Usability (note editor, sample editor, shortcuts etc...)
          i think this is the real priority = optimised workflow

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          • jayneural
            jayneural commented
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            7, 9, 10 shouldn't be a problem in terms of CPU resources.
            1. should be doable, at least for adding FX choices (maybe not adding slots).

        • #15
          Originally posted by jayneural View Post
          Not sure if next 1.x firmware release is around the corner, but let’s try to guess what’s coming into this release.

          Here are the feature requests I’ve see the most in the forums, but I might have missed some :

          1. More fx / fx slots & resonant filter
          2. Improved mixer with EQ
          3. More than 16 pads
          4. Looper/Loop recorder workflow with pedal support
          5. Automation and/or LFO modulation
          6. Wave table synth engine
          7. Stem/MIDI song export
          8. USB device port File/Audio/MIDI I/O
          9. Improved UI/Usability (note editor, sample editor, shortcuts etc...)
          10. Song mode revamp
          0. No features : just a major stability focused release.

          Let’s be reasonable and choose only one guess and hence expectation (I intentionally grouped some the suggestions in the same type of functionality). You can also suggest one not mentioned here.
          - About fx and mixing I would like to see a simple sidechain compressor on each channel, just selecting a source or none

          - About getting more than 16 pads I think the way to go is to get more banks, 2 o 4 banks, if that works then we can get layering on each sample too

          - Sequencer wise I think a probabilty based sequencer or adding some modulation over some params.

          - A better export functionality, stems or/and midi stems from song mode

          - Better undo functionality when recording sequences, I can remove by mistake a magically captured moment many times a session

          Im new to the blackbox and get it paired with an irig pads since day 1, awesome job

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