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    Georges
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  • Georges
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    Two-handed performance = two hands on keys or whatever other instrument = no free hand to push the record button to stop recording. Threshold is useful for audio recording of externally sequenced performances.
  • Affectionate-Bee
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    Georges
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    Georges I'm not sure I understand what you mean about the two-handed performance. If you are using 'custom' record length, then you will have to stop the recording manually somehow. Using 128 bar length allows you to stop it manually and then enter clip mode as opposed to sample mode. But yes, I am all for more control over looping/sampling!

    And interesting about threshold mode, I've never used it and can't imagine a use case in my setup for it.

    rev-eng it quantizes it, I believe at whatever resolution 'rec quant' is set to.

    valeriodaniele
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    valeriodaniele absolutely! I prefer the other modes over clips too. This is the only way I've found to get live looping out of a custom-length sample without having to go in and change the settings right after recording.
    Super +1 to the ability to pre-define PAD settings before recording (like a baby version of Octatrack's flex machines). Using the new MIDI rec messages feature and multiple PADS, you could go sooo many places with this

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  • Georges
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    That’s a great workaround for one-handed performances or pre-sequenced ones, though when live recording a two-handed performance it ain’t practical. Another use case where it remains impractical is when threshold’s on, for that deactivates quantized deactivation of recording.
  • valeriodaniele
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    Originally posted by Affectionate-Bee View Post
    +1

    My workaround for the custom bar length is to just set the rec length to 128 bars (which I often don't hit). You can still stop the recording at a custom length either by MIDI message or by hitting REC on the Blackbox. But yes to more fluid live looping
    Yes, I also tried this but using any bar length yields CLIP mode necessarily... and this mode is not very tweakable as Granular or Slice!

    My wish is that we would be able to record any loop lenght and to play them instantaneously in Gran or Slice modes, with pre-setted Granular/LFO/Reverse parameters!

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  • rev-eng
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    Originally posted by Affectionate-Bee View Post
    +1

    My workaround for the custom bar length is to just set the rec length to 128 bars (which I often don't hit). You can still stop the recording at a custom length either by MIDI message or by hitting REC on the Blackbox. But yes to more fluid live looping
    Clever workaround! Can the stopping be quantized or do you have to be accurate with the rec button?

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  • Affectionate-Bee
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    +1

    My workaround for the custom bar length is to just set the rec length to 128 bars (which I often don't hit). You can still stop the recording at a custom length either by MIDI message or by hitting REC on the Blackbox. But yes to more fluid live looping

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  • stimming
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    +1 from me

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  • Georges
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    clip mode is used automatically as long as you don’t use custom bar length, at least on the blackbox
  • Sunspots
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    Live looper here. Starting to run into these limitations. Somehow while looking at the marketing I didn't realize these shortcomings for live looping. I'm using bitbox mk2 and another very important thing would be to be able to keep all pads in clip mode. It's annoying to need to go into each one everytime and redo the mode because it isn't global for some reason? When I'm jamming I don't need to deal with my sampler looper modes in any way. I want to hit the button and capture the loop and crossfade from live to loop without delay.

    Also it doesn't seem to guess very well when the next beat is. Could be user error.

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  • upwardspiral
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  • upwardspiral
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    As I see it, the unit is not fit for live looping purposes because of several shortcomings. For example it introduces delays and unvoluntary fade-in / fade-out effects on recorded clips.

    I explained some of this here:

    https://forum.1010music.com/forum/pr...-of-recordings

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  • the.dirk
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    as a live looper, i am going to lend my support to this thread, too... this feature is necessary!

    just consider an everyday looper; these basic functions should be possible in the blackbox: start Rec > stop Rec (first loop sets standard loop length, begins looping); press Rec again on any existing loop (infinite overdub, adds to existing sample). etc.

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  • valeriodaniele
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    Thank you for supporting, Kebap!

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  • Kebap Benzin
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    I also need this.
    That Rec to play works with "custom" length too.
    It is extremely common when making any sort of live, improvised, or jam situation to want to record loops without defining beforehand how long the loop will be.
    Most loopers have this functionality and since BB now has the midi recording function, it would be very useful for many people.
    There is a huge demographic that does live looping.

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  • valeriodaniele
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  • valeriodaniele
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    Yes,
    we're here just for that: to add suggestions, ideas - peculiarities and extra-flexibility features - for an already rich and complex machine.
    Everyone of us has its own style of composition => workflow => needs.
    My post is here to kindly ask those two "additions/changes" to the software (without compromising any of its present characteristics), which - I think - could be very useful for those of us who work in live conditions with a large use of live sampling and improvisation.

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  • dertranb
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  • dertranb
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    this afternoon i was blackboxing, once again, and i stumble upon (i forgot in fact) that rec to play was a global pref (in tools) but also in pad in rec menu. there is something i don't understand about it, but anyway i can't template only some pad to play after rec and some, NOT : again there is this probleme with the idea of pads having 1/their own peculiar settings as a TEMPLATE and 2/ keeping it, even after being recorded over, as a PRE PROGRAMMED SLOT. (my pad 1 is supposed to be a SLOT for 4 bar of newly recorded on the fly clip playing in loop but the pad 2 is supposed to be a newly record sample part of a drumkit, pad 3 is supposed to be a slot for a granular instrument, so slot 1 should be rectoplay, but not the slot 2 & 3 !)

    also there is something else, in the same idea : the range of keyboard (and grid keyboard and in scale) will be the same for every pad, since i don"t use the intern seq, it's very frustrating to change each time the range of each pad according to my needs, since this pad need a C5 range, but this other is supposed to be played as a bass on C2 for exemple.... there is no problem when using midi keyboard, but sometimes i juste want to use the pad with my fingers...


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    BUT in the other hand, i should say that this new WONDERFUL midi rec option is very smart (i love it !) and a big step, for me, in this idea of a sampler with slots, allowing me to sample on the fly, remplacing sample already triggered by external seq (from drumbrute or from midi looper) or creating on the fly a new instrument with sampling...
    dertranb
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    Last edited by dertranb; 10-17-2021, 12:55 PM.

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