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  • Synthbox Public Beta 2

    Hello again,

    Synthbox is now available in near final form, including control from CV. To summarize: synthbox is alternative firmware for fxbox or bitbox that turns the unit into a 4-voice polyphonic synthesizer. The UI is now ready for your formal review.

    You can get this beta software in our Firmware Downloads forum. (This post has been edited to move the firmware links into the new member's only sub-forums for firmware downloads.) Please note that you must be a registered member of this forum to get access to the downloads.

    Thank you very much for your support. We look forward to hearing from you.

    The 1010music Team
    Last edited by Christine; 10-02-2017, 04:16 PM. Reason: I updated the Firmware Downloads Forum link to point to the forum where we will keep the latest firmware downloads pinned to the top of the list.

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    Looking great Aaron, fantastic work 1010 team!! I can't wait to throw a whole bunch of CV at this thing!

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    • #3
      Thanks for that, really impressive.
      There was bugs when i used it for the first time : it was not possible to load a waveform, i had a blue bar on the screen and that's all.
      If i changed waveform after that the voice didn't function.
      I rebbot and now all seems functionnal.

      Very nice work, very original.

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      • #4
        I can't seem to get synthbox to track pitch more than 3 octaves? When sending 0V (C-2 from the BSP), the "PTCH" indicator sits at about 70%, then it tracks up to C1, at which point the indicator is at 100%. CV's from my Voltage Block also have a 3 octave range, but at 0 volts the indicator is at 50% and 5V is about 80%.
        Last edited by Dan; 08-19-2017, 10:20 PM.

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        • #5
          Love the new dark color scheme ^_^

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          • #6
            Originally posted by neuron divider View Post
            I can't seem to get synthbox to track pitch more than 3 octaves? When sending 0V (C-2 from the BSP), the "PTCH" indicator sits at about 70%, then it tracks up to C1, at which point the indicator is at 100%. CV's from my Voltage Block also have a 3 octave range, but at 0 volts the indicator is at 50% and 5V is about 80%.
            Synthbox will only track pitch from 0-5V. The BeatStep Pro and other Arturia products typically run 0-8V, meaning you will top out pretty quickly unless you adjust the defaults. I believe the pitch indicator is showing -5V to 5V, so that doesn't completely explain what you are seeing. Can you check this on a scope?

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            • #7
              I don't have a scope or meter here, but I can probably borrow one. The Voltage Block is definitely 0-5V. Both of the sequencers on the BSP are set to V/Oct and the 0V midi note settings are C-2. The PTCH meter to jumps to 70% as soon as I patch in pitch CV from the BSP without even running the sequencer? Does that happen at your end?
              Last edited by Dan; 08-20-2017, 03:54 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by neuron divider View Post
                I don't have a scope or meter here, but I can probably borrow one. The Voltage Block is definitely 0-5V. Both of the sequencers on the BSP are set to V/Oct and the 0V midi note settings are C-2. The PTCH meter to jumps to 70% as soon as I patch in pitch CV from the BSP without even running the sequencer? Does that happen at your end?
                I don't have my BSP set up at the moment, but I would expect that result. On the BSP, please set the 0V midi note to C0 and I think it will work better for you.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Aaron View Post

                  On the BSP, please set the 0V midi note to C0 and I think it will work better for you.
                  This gets the PTCH indicator down to 50% but it makes the first 2 octaves too low. Depending on the preset, I'm not getting a usable bass note until C0 and it won't track any higher than C1. Is 0V supposed to be C-4 on the synthbox? If I transpose 1V/O up 24 semitones in the settings menu, it tracks the expected pitch range.

                  *edit - Sorry for derailing the thread. I should have started a new one in the support section. Feel free to split these posts from here and move them there if you like
                  Last edited by Dan; 08-20-2017, 06:35 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by neuron divider View Post
                    This gets the PTCH indicator down to 50% but it makes the first 2 octaves too low. Depending on the preset, I'm not getting a usable bass note until C0 and it won't track any higher than C1. Is 0V supposed to be C-4 on the synthbox? If I transpose 1V/O up 24 semitones in the settings menu, it tracks the expected pitch range.
                    I believe that 2V is meant to be C4 on synthbox. Most importantly you have figured out the right idea. You need to transpose down the BSP and transpose up the Synthbox to have a good overlapping note range. I know this seems kinda strange. This is all based on the lack of a clear standard of what C4 is in voltage. Moog uses 0V. Arturia starts with 4V. Everyone else is somewhere in between.

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                    • #11
                      That makes perfect sense Aaron, thanks for clearing that up!

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                      • #12
                        I've done some experiment,
                        if the pitch of the oscillator is at +0V
                        and the general pitch in the settings is at trans : 0
                        then to obtain a C4 you have to use 5V and this is the max you can use.

                        So you can adjust two parameters, i think the one in the settings can be : trans : 36, then you have a C7 for 5V and a C2 for 0V.

                        And the synthbox remember this trans setting when you powered up.

                        Edit : A question for AAron, do you confirm the env1 is assign to the global VCA of the track and the env2 is not assign and can be use freely ( as the env 1 can )?
                        Last edited by Patate le mage; 08-21-2017, 10:39 AM.

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                        • #13
                          Another question :
                          The signal out of the synthbox seems to be a little weak, i mesured it with a DATA and i obtain : -1V to +1V, so a 2V amplitude which seems not standard, is it normal or is it a user error ?

                          Edit, that was because my sustain was not at max level, with the sustain at 100 and the three output at 100 i obtain -3V to +3V wich is not a lot but seems better.
                          Last edited by Patate le mage; 08-21-2017, 10:56 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Patate le mage View Post
                            do you confirm the env1 is assign to the global VCA of the track and the env2 is not assign and can be use freely ( as the env 1 can )?
                            That is correct. ENV1 is hard wired to the main VCA. You can use it elsewhere if you like, but it will always go to VCA. ENV2 and all of the other modulators are free.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Patate le mage View Post
                              Another question :
                              The signal out of the synthbox seems to be a little weak, ... is it normal or is it a user error ?
                              Because synthbox is doing so many things (filtering, enveloping, applying effects, playing multiple voices), you will find that it is normally under 5V. If you want a hotter signal you can mix yourself, use the Out Mode: Voice x 4. It will put more control (and responsibility) in your hands.

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